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Installing Windows 7 - Clean Install

Current Operating System: Windows XP Home or Professional
New Operating System: Windows 7 [Any Version]
In this scenario the intent is to take a computer with some version of Windows XP installed and do a clean installation of Windows 7. There are actually two ways to go about the installation;
1. The installation can be started by booting from the Windows 7 DVD. By booting from the DVD you will have the option to make changes to the partition structure on the hard disk. However, if the changes you make involve changing the partition where XP is currently installed then you lose files and data that might be saved to a windows.old folder that could be accessed from Windows 7. If you don't make changes to the install partition, the windows.old folder will be created and you'll have access to the data and files transferred there.
2. The installation can be started from inside the existing Windows XP installation. This choice eliminates the option to make changes to the structure of the hard disk. It will remain exactly as it is currently with no option to create, delete, or resize partitions. However, there will be a windows.old folder created that will contain data and files that can be accessed after the Windows 7 installation is complete. It's important to note that while windows.old does contain a programs folder, this does not mean they transfer completely and are usable. They will have to be reinstalled in Windows 7.
When you pause and think about it, what's the difference between this scenario and scenario one where you do a clean Windows 7 installation to a bare hard drive? Other than the windows.old folder discussed above, the only 'real' difference is the ability to use an upgrade version of Windows 7 as opposed to a full version Windows 7 DVD. Even that's a faux difference because you can use an upgrade version to do a full clean install even if you never have had a system with XP or any other qualifying product installed, but that's a different story for a different article.
The majority of users are more comfortable starting an operating system installation from inside Windows rather than booting from the DVD which often times requires changes be made to the boot order inside the system BIOS. Since XP is currently installed you may have this option available depending on what version of XP is present. If the current XP installation has either no Service Packs or SP1 or SP1a installed [See Fig. 1] then the Windows 7 installation cannot be started from inside XP. This isn't a very likely scenario as long as XP has been around, but it does happen on occasion. You have to boot from the installation media [that's a fancy way of saying boot from the DVD] or else you have to update Windows XP to Service Pack 2 or above.

Fig. 01
Here's another point to think about if you're considering installing Windows 7 on a system running Windows XP with anything less than Service Pack 2 installed. You'll be unable to install and run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor. It isn't a show stopper, but the Upgrade Advisor is a useful tool that provides insight about issues you may encounter. Again, just because it's called Upgrade Advisor and it can be run on some versions of XP, you still can't 'upgrade' in the traditional sense of upgrading.

Fig. 02
With the two points above out of the way, here's the procedure for installing Windows 7 when XP is in place on the system. I've tried to set the tutorial as a comparative guide which will allow you to see the differences you're likely to encounter during installation depending on whether the installation is started by booting from the Windows 7 DVD or if the installation is started from inside Windows XP.
The left hand column follows the 'Booting from the Windows 7 DVD' installation while the right hand column follows the 'Starting Installation from Inside Windows XP' installation. I've matched identical screens in each scenario horizontally and noted in the appropriate column when there is no equivalent screen.
   
Booting from the Windows 7 DVD Starting Installation from
Inside Windows XP
   

Fig. 3A

With the Windows 7 DVD in the drive, power on the system and watch for the "Press any key to boot from CD or DVD ..." message to appear and press any of the keys on the keyboard. The spacebar is the usual choice, but 'any' key will suffice.

If you don't see the message appear, see the Set BIOS to Boot from CD/DVD Drive page.
There is no equivalent screen when initiating the installation of Windows 7 from inside Windows XP


Fig. 4A

Depending on the system and configuration, you may or may not see the [Windows Boot Manager] screen. If it appears just hit [Enter] to continue.
There is no equivalent screen when initiating the installation of Windows 7 from inside Windows XP.



Fig. 5A

This screen is just to let you know Windows files are being loaded and provide visual confirmation the system hasn't locked up or frozen.
There is no equivalent screen when initiating the installation of Windows 7 from inside Windows XP



Fig. 6A

Another piece of eye candy to keep you advised about what's happening in the background.
There is no equivalent screen when initiating the installation of Windows 7 from inside Windows XP



Fig. 7A

The main [Install Windows] screen. If you want to change the system  [Language], [Time and Currency] format, or [Keyboard or Input Method] settings, this is the place to make those changes.
There is no equivalent screen when initiating the installation of Windows 7 from inside Windows XP

Note: While it's true there is no equivalent screen 'at this point' in the installation, the option to make these changes does present later in the process when doing the initial operating system setup.



Fig. 8A

Fig. 8B
Basically these are the same point in the installation process. When the installation is started from within XP, the option to Check Compatibility Online is available. Booting from the DVD disallows compatibility checking but does allow the [Repair Your Computer] option not otherwise available.

In either case, clicking the [Install Now] button will keep the process moving forward.


There is no equivalent screen when initiating the installation of Windows 7 from inside Windows XP
Fig. 9B

Just another eye candy screen of no consequence.



Fig. 10A

Fig. 10B
Yet another set of screens to provide a visual confirmation that something is actually happening in the background.


There is no equivalent screen when initiating the installation of Windows 7 from inside Windows XP
Fig. 11B

The option to go online and get updates is presented. This screen always makes me laugh when I read the installation 'might' fail and the system 'could' be more vulnerable to security threats if I decline the updates. And - a goat could fall through the roof and kill me before installation completes, but hey --  if you want the updates, now is the time.


There is no equivalent screen when initiating the installation of Windows 7 from inside Windows XP
Fig. 12 B

Just a little eye candy and progress indicator to keep you amused while the updates are located and downloaded.


There is no equivalent screen when initiating the installation of Windows 7 from inside Windows XP
Fig. 13B
It's quite likely you'll never see an operating system selection screen listing the different operating systems available.

Most DVD's are tied to a specific version by way of the supplied activation key, and instead of displaying this screen, you are taken directly to the license terms screen shown below.

The question is frequently asked what version Windows 7 DVD I'm using in this screen capture that allows all the different x86 versions to be visible on the same DVD. It's a specially modified DVD I made from a Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade DVD. Go here for instructions on how to modify and burn your own version.



Fig. 14A

Fig. 14B
The infamous [Microsoft Software License Terms] screen where you're reminded that even though you paid for the operating system with your hard earned money, you can't do a damn thing with it unless you agree to Microsoft's license terms to light up that little [Next] button.



Fig. 15A
Select the type of installation you want to perform.

In this scenario it's going to be a [Custom] installation.

Fig. 15B
Select the type of installation you want to perform.

In this scenario it's going to be a [Custom] installation.
Normally when an option isn't available or applicable it's grayed out. In this case the  'Upgrade' option definitely falls into this category, yet it can be selected. You can't upgrade from XP to Windows 7 no matter how you approach the installation, so select the [Custom (advanced)] option to continue the installation.



Fig. 16A

If by chance you select [Upgrade] in the previous screen you'll see this [Compatibility Report] stating your choice was unacceptable and offering advice on how to proceed.

Unfortunately, the advice given doesn't apply to this scenario. It tells you to restart the installation from inside Windows, in this case XP, which still won't allow an upgrade and you'll be right back where you started.

Fig. 16B

If by chance you select [Upgrade] in the previous screen you'll see this [Compatibility Report] stating your choice was unacceptable and offering advice on how to proceed.

Unfortunately, the advice given states you can't upgrade from XP to Windows 7 and suggests you visit a website to learn about Windows Easy Transfer. Absolutely worthless, but if you do want information on Windows Easy Transfer, here's an article that may help.
Here's the important part. If your intent is to go back to the [Install Selection] screen and pick [Custom], do not use the red 'X' to close this window. Instead, use the left facing arrow on the upper left of the screen. Using the red 'X' will force you out of the installation and it will have to be restarted from the beginning. 



Fig. 17A

Select the disk and partition where Windows 7 will be installed.

In this example there is only one choice, but be careful if you're installing to a drive with multiple partitions. You can easily select the wrong drive or partition and wipe out data you wanted to keep.

Click the [Next] button.

Fig. 17B

Select the disk and partition where Windows 7 will be installed.

In this example there is only one choice, but be careful if you're installing to a drive with multiple partitions. You can easily select the wrong drive or partition and wipe out data you wanted to keep.

Click the [Next] button.



Fig. 18A

The question has been asked, why didn't the notice in Fig. 18B appear on the installation started by booting from the DVD? Truth is, it did appear, but compare Fig. 18A to Fig. 17B and you'll see when booting from the DVD you have the option to modify partitions.

In this case, Fig, 18A shows the initial drive layout before I deleted Disk 0 - Partition 1 to make the drive layout appear as it does in Fig. 17A; 50GB of unallocated space. Had I just clicked [Next] in Fig 18A before making the modifications the notice shown in Fig. 18B would have appeared.

Fig. 18B

This is the notice that the selected partition may contain files from a previous Windows installation, in this case XP, and notifying you about the Windows.old folder that will be created.



Fig.  19A

Fig. 19B
That's it for the moment. The installation program will work through each of the steps along with a few system restarts.

No user intervention is required during this phase of the installation. 


There is no equivalent screen when initiating the installation of Windows 7 from inside Windows XP
Fig. 20B

Way back in Fig. 7A in the Booting from Win 7 DVD scenario you had the option of changing the system  [Language], [Time and Currency] format, or [Keyboard or Input Method] settings. This screens allows you to make basically the same adjustments when the installation is started from inside Windows XP.



Fig. 21A

Fig. 21B
Eventually you'll be prompted for a user name and computer name. The user name doesn't make much difference, but give some thought to the computer name, especially if you have more than one computer and this installation will be part of your network. 



Fig. 22A

Fig. 22B
Countless times I've seen and heard it said that if you are a home user you don't need a password. That's just plain idiocy. If you don't password protect your account you are leaving it open and vulnerable to anyone and everyone, even those people at home you trust that just might accidentally wipe out your entire system - or perhaps might not be quite as trustworthy as you thought.

If you do use a password to protect the account, a password hint is required. In this case I suggest you do not enter a password hint that is in any way relative or germane to your actual password. Just enter a string of garbage or type the word 'None' to satisfy the requirement something be entered. 



Fig. 23A

Fig, 23B
I strongly suggest you not enter your product key at this point and uncheck the box for automatic activation. At the minimum you have 30 days to evaluate and test the installation before activation is required. Take advantage of it to test, modify, and possibly even reinstall the operating system if necessary. 



Fig. 24A

Fig. 24B
I remain a huge proponent of not giving away the keys to the update kingdom by giving anyone the right to update your system without you giving specific approval of each and every update. Obviously my choice here is going to be [Ask Me Later] when you can give permission to be notified when updates are available without committing to their download and installation until you have a chance to review them first. 



Fig. 25A

Fig. 25B
Nothing to say here --  it's setting the time and date for crying out loud.



Fig. 26A

Fig. 26B
Finalizing settings. Nothing to do but just wait.


Once the personal settings have been entered there are a series of screens welcoming you to Windows 7, a notice the desktop is being  prepared and finally the Windows 7 desktop appears when the Windows 7 installation is complete.
   
Here are a few additional points to consider in this type of installation:
Dealing with the product key [aka serial number] has changed substantially from XP, to Vista, and now Windows 7.
  • In XP, the product key was required right away before you could even start an installation.
  • In Vista, the option to bypass entering the product key right away at the beginning of the installation was introduced. The installation could be completed without any product key and you had 30 days of operating system use before the key was required.
  • In Windows 7 no product key is needed for the initial installation in spite of it being a little less obvious than was the case in Vista.
That said, the bottom line however is that eventually you are going to need a valid activation key if you want to continue using the operating system past the 30, 60, 90 or whatever the number of days it is now you're allowed before the system essentially shuts down and refuses to do much of anything except allowing an activation key to be entered.
 


 

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